Tuesday, September 4, 2018

Sputnik: Looking Back, 61 Years Later...

Exactly 61 years ago next month, I was standing out on my driveway with my mother to watch Sputnik, the first man made satellite, cross the sky. That was the night I learned in great detail about Lucifer and his extensive plan called “The Plan”, to manipulate the masses into embracing his religion sold as “truth” and brotherhood and to put his “Christ” (his chosen one) in global power. (Lucifer is the same entity as Satan)

People who are familiar with my testimony know that I gave my life to Jesus Christ over 30 years ago and  since that time, I have worked hard to expose Satan’s plan so people will not become a victim to it. Unfortunately many have embraced the poison and are practicing it in spite of my warnings. Most of those are professing Christians who have too easily bought into the planned deceptions of Satan and are now practicing the occult, yet still consider themselves to be “Christian”. However, they are no different than the Luciferians I was raised by. Many Luciferians call themselves “Christian”, considering themselves to be more enlightened than the Christians whose Christianity is based on the solid fundamental interpretation of the Bible in context. This is the same belief and attitude the fallen christians have today. Satan’s plan has been very successful. 😔

It is my hope that some how, some way, God will wake those people up from the deception before it is too late. 

I wish I could have been able to make a video to post tonight about all I remembered about that night 61 years ago, but sadly I have not been able to do it. Maybe I can do that soon. 

I think if people could hear me tell the story, that they might somehow believe me and see that Satan is real and his plan is real…real enough for them to see the need to give their lives to God through the plan He has provided to save us. (Acts 4:12  (KJV) “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” - Which is speaking of Jesus Christ who is God’s plan. Salvation is just the beginning. You must do your best to live according to God’s righteous standards. If you say you are a Christian, but are practicing the occult and/or are living according to Satan’s standards, you have opened yourself to the demonic, to be influenced and guided and deceived by the demonic. You are not serving God, you are serving Satan. This is serious!!!!  

Here are some links to posts of what I have written in the past about the night of October 4th 1957:

The Plan: Exterminate “Religious Extremists” (December 7, 2014)

TIME CAPSULE: My Mother, Project Blue Beam & "The Reappearance of "The Christ", MASS MURDER 4 GLOBAL PEACE (excerpts from 1989)

Obama Lights, NWO, and Maitreya SAME PLAN (December 14, 2009)


Hopefully I can do a video soon to tell in more detail of that night 61 years ago. 

Monday, September 3, 2018

Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101, PART 9: Spiritual Warfare According to Scripture

In part 9 of “Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101,” we continue our talk about getting “back to the basics” of Scripture to find deliverance and healing, discussing what spiritual warfare looks like according to Scripture.


The notes in this post were written by Loren Grace, originally posted on our shared web site at this link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/2018/09/03/deliverance-and-spiritual-warfare-101-part-9/

In accordance with Satan’s plan, people are being taken away from the truth of the Word of God and are purposefully being conditioned towards a carnal (fleshly) mentality; yet these people believe it to be a spiritual mindset. One way the demonic are accomplishing this is to get the Christian focused and occupied with a false spiritual warfare. A false spiritual warfare not only keeps the individual busy doing things that are not Scriptural, but it also causes them to become literally occupied (controlled, possessed) by the demonic.

And as a result of this false spiritual warfare, people are becoming warlike, like the fallen who they are following after, and they become the perfect vessel through which the demonic can work Satan’s plan throughout the earth.

Many times, people who are occupied with false spiritual warfare believe they are “partnering with angels,” but this is not Scriptural, and the beings they consider to be a “angels” (or even “Jesus”) are demonic beings that have disguised themselves as angels of light.

False spiritual warfare feeds a person’s ego, but the true (Biblical) spiritual warfare begins at salvation, and it continues as you humble yourself before God and follow His standards.

Our spiritual weapons are not carnal weapons that different types of occultists often use, such as:

water (including “spiritual water guns or water balloons”)
scissors, swords, knives, needles, or guns
hand grenades or other types of “spiritual explosives”

But according to the Word of God, as Christians our spiritual weapons include:

Submission to the Father
Opposing what is of Satan
Not allowing Satan to have opportunity to gain power or control over you
The gospel of peace
The Word of God
Prayer and petition to God
Persevering in prayer for one another

Furthermore, our spiritual fight is not against people, but against Satan and the demonic.

If you are a Christian, why would you follow the ways of occultists? Why would you fight in the way that the world fights? If you wage warfare in the way Satan and the demonic wages warfare, then you are not following the standards of God.

Our spiritual weapons are not carnal. They are not fleshly. The spiritual weapons that come from the Spirit of God to fight the enemy (the demonic) don’t need upgrades.

Go back to the simplicity of the Word of God and learn how to wage warfare against Satan according to Scripture!

Scriptures for Study

James 4:7-10 (BSB)

Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Grieve, mourn, and weep. Turn your laughter to mourning, and your joy to gloom.

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you.

1 Peter 5:9 (BSB)

Resist him [the adversary], standing firm in your faith and in the knowledge that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kinds of suffering.

. . . and do not give the devil a foothold.

Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand.

For though we live in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh.

The weapons of our warfare are not the weapons of the world. Instead, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.

(for further word study: https://biblehub.com/greek/4559.htm

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Thursday, August 30, 2018

Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101: Part 8

In part 8 of “Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101,” we continue our talk about getting “back to the basics” of Scripture to find deliverance and healing, discussing the next points of walking by faith, walking in obedience to God’s Word, living humbly, and the importance of continuing to focus on the Solution.


The notes in this post were written by Loren Grace, originally posted on our shared web site at this link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/2018/08/30/deliverance-and-spiritual-warfare-101-part-8/

Walking by Faith and in Obedience to His Word

• Walking by faith involves trusting that God is in the process of setting you free no matter how you feel.

• Walking by faith means that you continue doing what is right regardless of what’s going on around you.

• Walking by faith requires being obedient to His Word, and obedience requires submission to the authority of God. So if you are having problems submitting to God, ask God to help you!

• When you mess up and fall down, you confess, repent, submit to God once again, ask God to help you, and then start over, walking by faith and in obedience to His Word.

• And as you continue through this process of walking according to His standards, over time, you will become more discerning and more easily guided by His Holy Spirit.

Living Humbly

• If you ever get to the point where you think you’ve “got it,” then you  are going to fall right back into the same traps.

• Living humbly means admitting that you need God’s help.

• For an example of living humbly, look at the example of Jesus!

Focus on your relationship with your Heavenly Father.

• When you begin to focus on the Solution (your Heavenly Father) rather than the problem, the Spirit of God begins to apply His solution to your problem.

• He changes your heart and you begin to desire what He desires.

• As you begin to focus on walking in the standards of God — which include confession, repentance, submission, walking by faith, and in obedience to His Word  — you will begin to want what God wants. And the Spirit of God will begin to change you, bringing you freedom and deliverance as you continue to daily walk according to His standards.

Walking in deliverance and freedom isn’t always easy. But it is simple.

Satan complicates.

God simplifies.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018

Trusting Ex-Programmers

Something’s been bothering me, and I just want to write a quick note of warning to other survivors, particularly those who, like myself, have survived mind-control programming.

I’ve recently been informed that a particular self-proclaimed mind-control programmer who supposedly repented and went underground, has now resurfaced and is claiming to want to help other survivors now.

And, no, I’m not going to “name names.” At this point, it would be counterproductive. But coming across this information (that this programmer/ex-programmer has resurfaced and is now actively trying to reach survivors) has left me feeling very, very uneasy.

And I don’t trust it.

There are many reasons why I don’t trust this “resurfacing,” and many reasons why I don’t trust this “ex-programmer,” and maybe when my mind isn’t feeling so fluttery and fly-away, I’ll be able to write more about it.

(but prolly not, because after I finish writing this, I just want to ignore the whole situation and pretend it doesn’t exist)

But suffice to say, there are too many questions and not enough plausible answers.

Maybe this person really is an EX-programmer.

Maybe not.

Maybe this person really is trying to help people now.

But maybe not.

Here’s the bottom line: I know what it’s like to be desperate for help, to be desperate for solutions, to be desperate for answers. What it’s like to be desperately afraid that there is no one to trust, but being just as desperate to find that someone to trust.

But here’s the flip side of that: because of the very nature of abuse, survivors have the tendency to seek out abusive situations in spite of themselves, and to seek out people who are either very much like their past abusers or who are those abusers they are trying to get away from.

And when mind-control programming is added into the equation, this tendency is multiplied many times over.

It’s the trap I fell for, and I just want to warn you to not fall into this trap, too.

Here are some questions to ponder:

1. Do you know that programmed people have been programmed to seek out certain people and certain situations that are counter-productive to their emotional, mental, and spiritual healing?

2. And do you realize that this is serving to keep those survivors corralled into a particular area where they can continue to be used and controlled and manipulated not only by certain people who the demonic are using, but, more importantly, by the demonic themselves?

3. And do you understand that even though many of those survivors are being fed emotions and thoughts that make them “feel good” at the moment, and that may “sound good” on the surface, it is only to keep them happy and staying in one place — in that very place that is keeping them under the control of the demonic?

It’s an awful, desperate situation: in trying to get away from people who are hurting them, survivors are often attracted to and drawn towards the very people who are hurtful! And for those who are programmed, the dangers are even more insidious.

So, as a survivor, until a certain amount of healing is accomplished in your heart and mind, this abusive cycle will continue.

So be careful who you trust.

Just because someone claims to be an EX-programmer, doesn’t mean that they are.


Detailed information about mind-control programming and how it works may or may not be helpful to some people. However, I’ve watched many people get caught up in researching and seeking and probing into the Satanic underground, looking for answers, looking for the truth

(why do you think you can find the truth where lies are crafted?)

and then get sucked into that proverbial rabbit-hole, unable to pull themselves back to what really matters in life.

(hint: what really matters is a relationship with the Heavenly Father)

They seek after the lies to find the truth.

(you will never come to know the truth by studying the lie, and until you learn to recognize the truth, you will never recognize the lie)

Eventually, the rabbit hole becomes their reality, as they are drawn after deeper and greater sensationalism. Deeper and greater mysteries. Deeper and greater revelations.

And in spite of a couple of brief references in the book Carolyn and I wrote, out of all the information out there about mind-control programming, I have been able to read very, very little of it. For the most part, I just find it triggering and counter-productive to the healing process. Yes, there have been a couple of things I managed to skim over that have served as “confirmation” for me. In other words, through reading I realized, “Gee, I didn’t make that up! That actually did happen to me.”

But for the most part, such information is very triggering, creating a chaotic environment on the inside of me (my system), and weighing me down with feelings of despair and desperation and confusion.


Because reading and hearing about the problems and how big they are and how complicated it all is — how complicated and detailed and insurmountable all the programming is — is distressing.

And guess what? It’s also NOT THE TRUTH.

Yes, the problem is big.

God is bigger.

Yes, programming is complicated.

God isn’t confused by it.

Yes, programming is tricky.

God isn’t tricked by it.

Yes, the problems that the programming creates are insurmountable for me.

God isn’t overwhelmed and defeated by it.

So in spite of all the information out there that details mind-control programming, how it works, and how to supposedly “deprogram” people

(would you really trust info from other people about deprogramming? or trust anyone to deprogram you? especially a self-proclaimed programmer? so they claim to be an EX-programmer . . . how do you know that to be true?)

the most helpful thing for survivors is pointing them to The Solution, which is the Heavenly Father and the basics of Scripture. This is the answer that brings true healing and deliverance, even from mind-control programming!

Any “help” from any so-called “ex-programmers”

(or “christian counselors,” or “life-coaches,” or anyone else)

that doesn’t have this foundation, is suspect, in my opinion.

And yes, I am using my past experiences with programmers in forming this opinion. Yes, I am allowing my past experiences with liars who call themselves “deliverance counselors and life-coaches” to color my perception. Yes, I am taking into consideration my past experiences with liars who claim to be “deprogramming” people, but are actually PROGRAMMING them.

Wouldn’t you do the same?

It would be foolish to not.

So — should you trust someone who claims to be an ex-programmer?

I wouldn’t.

But you should do what you think is best for you.

Just be careful.

That’s all I want to tell you.

be careful

Loren ❤

Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101, Part 7: Ask

In part 7 of “Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101,” we continue our talk about getting “back to the basics” of Scripture to find deliverance and healing, discussing the next point of “making your requests known to God.”


The notes in this post were written by Loren Grace, originally posted on our shared web site at this link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/2018/08/27/deliverance-and-spiritual-warfare-part-7-ask/

Asking of God is simple, even if you have a dissociative disorder. It is not complicated like the spell-casting of “formula prayers” or “scientific prayers.”


  • make your requests known to the Heavenly Father;
  • submit to Him and ask for His will to be done over and above your will;
  • then continue to walk according to His standards, resting in the faith that His will is being accomplished in your life.

Satan complicates.

God simplifies.

Scriptures for Consideration

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward. But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 
So then, this is how you should pray:
‘Our Father in heaven,hallowed be Your name,Your kingdom come,Your will be done,on earth as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread.And forgive us our debts,as we also have forgiven our debtors;And lead us not into temptation,but deliver us from the evil one.’
For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours.

We walk by faith, not by sight.

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018

Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101, Part 6: Submit to God

In part 6 of “Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101,” we continue our talk about getting “back to the basics” of Scripture to find deliverance and healing.

In this video, we discuss our journey of finding deliverance and healing through submission to God.

We speak from our point of view as survivors of abuse, particularly mind control agendas, and although we have tried to discuss these issues with compassion and care, the topic submission to God may be triggering to some survivors. If you find yourself becoming triggered, please stop watching and tend to your immediate needs.

Notes in this post were written by Loren Grace, originally posted on our shared web site at this link:  https://askcarolynandloren.com/2018/08/22/deliverance-and-spiritual-warfare-101-part-6-submit-to-god/


Even those who have had no life-altering traumatic injuries — whether emotional, mental, spiritual, physical, or sexual — will often have a natural aversion to submission to God. It’s just human nature to want to do our own thing and to be in control of our own life.

However, those of us who have had trauma injuries because of going through such abuses will often have a visceral and painful reaction to hearing about submission to God. This is because oftentimes, “submission” has been used as a weapon against us, sometimes coupled with Scripture that has been horribly twisted out of context, to force us into an unhealthy and ungodly submission to abusive people who have damaged our body, mind, and spirit.

Ultimately, however, submission to God is an integral part of our spiritual warfare, and it is impossible to find freedom and deliverance without submitting to the authority and to the will of the Father. So it is no wonder that the demonic work overtime to cause people to want to avoid submission to God!

For those who have been injured by a false and ungodly submission, it is very important to understand that submission to the true God is not submitting to abusive people or to an abusive false god. But when you submit to the will of the Heavenly Father, you start to follow down the path that He has for your life.

And an amazing thing happens when you submit to God: you begin come into alignment with His plan for your life, and this start to bring a meaning and a reason for the suffering you have gone through.

 Romans 8:28: “And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose.” (BSB)

All things — not just the future things that will happen, but even the bad things in the past!

Submission to the true God eliminates the power that fear has over you.

  • You are no longer afraid of the present, because you are submitted to the One who guides you through each day.
  • You are no longer afraid of the future, because you are submitted to the One who holds the future, and you are submitted to His plan for your life.
  • You are no longer afraid of the past, because you are submitted to the One who is bringing you healing from the past, and to the One who is creating something meaningful and beautiful out of all the pain and chaos you have been through.

Submission to God and to His plan involves being obedient to His Word, and this is a daily activity. Submission begins at salvation when we come under His authority, and it continues throughout our life. If you have other parts of you (alters), them submit yourself to God and submit every part of yourself to God, and do this on a daily basis.

(Personally, I [Loren] speak this every morning when I first awake: “Heavenly Father, today I submit myself to Your will, and I submit every part of me to Your will. Help me to be obedient to Your Word today.”)

 James 4:7 — “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” (BSB)

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Monday, August 20, 2018

Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101, Part 5: Confession and Repentance

Notes in this post were written by Loren Grace, originally posted on our shared web site at this link: 


In part 5 of “Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101,” we continue our talk about getting “back to the basics” of Scripture to find deliverance and healing.

In this video, we discuss our journey of finding deliverance and healing through confession and repentance.

We speak from out point of view as survivors of abuse, particularly mind control agendas, and although we have tried to discuss these issues with compassion and care, the topics of repentance and confession may be triggering to some survivors. If you find yourself becoming triggered, please stop watching and tend to your immediate needs.

Please review our disclaimers.


Sometimes we purposefully and consciously do things that are against God and His standards, and sometimes we do not follow the standards of God because we are ignorant and do not know any better. In these situations, it’s clear that we need to confess and repent in order to restore our right standing with God.

However, what if we are forced against our will into situations that are against God? Or what happens when other people perpetrate things upon us that are against the standards of God? How does confession and repentance fit into these situations?

As survivors of abuse, when confession and repentance are spoken of in the context of two things that are necessary in order to find healing from that abuse, this can be very triggering and upsetting. However it is very important to remember the following:

  • Confessing and repenting does not mean you are saying that it was your fault that you were abused.
  • Confessing and repenting does not mean that the abuse was okay.
  • Confession and repentance does not mean that the abusers are getting off the hook.
  • Confession and repentance does not mean that you have to place yourself back into an abusive situation.
  • Confession and repentance does not even mean that you are forgiving the other people for their abuses. Forgiveness is a separate issue that the Spirit of God will work inside of you as He brings you healing.

Confession and repentance is not for your condemnation.

Confession and repentance is for your healing.

However the sinful action came about — whether it was done purposefully and consciously by your own self, or whether it was something that you were forced to do by other people — this action creates a connection between you and that sin.

Confession and repentance is a process that cuts the cord that connects you to the abusive and sinful action.

For the person who has been abused, the process of confession and repentance looks like this:

  • Confession: admitting that it happened.

This means that you refuse to live in denial of what took place. This means that you can learn to boldly speak without shame: “This is what happened to me and it was wrong.”

  • Repentance: turning away from that which is against God.
This means that you turn away from the sinful actions that were forced upon you, and you refuse to allow the rest of your life to be controlled by those actions that others perpetrated upon you or forced you to participate in.

The process of confession and repentance helps you learn to acknowledge what happened without becoming stuck in an abusive identity and without allowing those sinful actions to control the rest of your life.

Confession and repentance allows God to make you into the whole person He created you to be.

Question: What if you have alters who aren’t in agreement with confession and repentance?

Answer: You confess for yourself and on behalf of every part of you. You repent for yourself and on behalf of every part of you.

Confession and repentance begins to break the power that sin has over you, and it begins to set you free.

Confession and repentance cuts the connection to that sin.

Whether it is a sin that you knowingly committed, or if it’s a sin out of ignorance, or if it’s a sin that you were forced to commit, or if it’s a sin that was committed against you: confession and repentance breaks the power that sin has over you and this is where you begin to find freedom.

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Friday, August 17, 2018

Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101, Part 4: What should a Christian Counselor Look Like?

What should Christian counseling look like? In part 4 of the series, “Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 101,” Loren Grace and I discuss some of the basics on what Christian counseling should be from a Biblical standpoint.

Please review our disclaimers.

Notes in this post were written by Loren Grace, originally posted on our shared web site at this link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/2018/08/17/deliverance-and-spiritual-warfare-101-part-4/


If you are going to an individual for counsel because they are a Christian, then that counselor should be following the standards of what a Christian should be according to what is found in the Word of God.

Note: secular counselors, even if they call themselves Christian, will likely not be able to pray with you and counsel you according to Scripture. This doesn’t mean they don’t have helpful advise to offer; it just means that you need to understand this going into a counseling situation with such an individual. However, as with all situations, line up what they say with the Word of God. If their advise isn’t spiritually sound, throw it out. If they do not respect your Christian values and are pushing you to become involved in things that are not spiritually safe and Biblically sound (e.g., meditation), then it may be time for you find a different therapist.

“Christian” is a name-tag. Calling yourself a Christian doesn’t automatically make it so! A lot of people who call themselves Christian counselors or Christian “deliverance” ministers have open doors to the demonic. So be careful who you allow to counsel you, pray with you, or even touch you in the context of prayer or “deliverance” counseling.

Even if you are going through a counseling situation that does not occur in person (e.g., via Skype or telephone), when you give that individual spiritual authority over you, you will be susceptible to the same influence that the demonic have through that person. This holds true regardless of whether you have given that person explicit permission to have authority over you, or whether you have given your implicit permission. So take care in whom you allow to counsel you, and in whom you allow to have a level of spiritual authority over you.

Some questions to ask yourself of a potential or current Christian counselor:

  • What is their character like?
  • Are they moral?
  • Are they following the standards of God?
  • Is it wise to submit to the spiritual authority of a counselor who is not following the standards of God?

Reminder: go to the Word of God to see what the standards of God are.

Deliverance and Christian counseling should include these elements:

  • Christian counseling should include discipling (education on the Word of God).
  • It should include confession and repentance.
  • Christian counseling should be conducted out of love and compassion.
  • The counselor should not be operating out of condemnation, but they should stand firm on the standards of God that are found in the Bible and encourage you to follow those standards.
  • Christian counseling should strengthen your faith.
  • Christian counseling should involve relying on GOD (not demons) for the answers, and having faith that He will answer according to His will.

Important: when you start to walk in the standards of God and begin to be obedient to His Word, the doors to the demonic will start to close.

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